A tale of two shoes

Here’s a quick first impression of both my new running shoes that I acquired on Saturday.

Hoka One One Clifton 3

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First I ran in the Hoka One One Clifton 3 running shoes. This is my first experience with Hoka One One shoes of any sort.

I ran intervals in them on the treadmill. A set of 2 minutes walking, 2 minutes running moderate pace, then 1 minute sprinting at 8 mph.

I was very pleased with them. They were like running on a mattress. Lots of cushion. I tend to land rather heavy and they absorbed it pretty well. My one fear was that I’d feel unstable on them, because that is a complaint I sometimes hear from people who have tried Hoka One One shoes. It’s also how I felt in the Puma Bioweb pair I have. You ride rather high and there’s this feeling like you’ll twist an ankle. Not with the Clifton 3 shoes. They felt just right. No instability. No feeling like I was on stilts. They felt secure even with all that cushioning.

First impression: I like the Clifton 3. They are a good trainer on the treadmill. I hope to try them on cement when the weather gets better (and my weight). I hope they’re as cushiony on cement as they are on the treadmill.

Brooks GTS Adrenaline 17

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Uecker is comparing the Brooks GTS Adrenaline 16 (top) and 17 (bottom)

I ran in these today. Put in a good long 5k run on the treadmill at a faster pace (for me), which is faster than the moderate pace I use in the intervals, but still slower than a sprint.

The shoes fit well, didn’t seem to create any hot spots, and were very stable. I’ve changed my running style from when I first started running in the Brooks GTS Adrenaline 16 shoes I just retired. I was a heel striker and I’d overpronate as my foot rolled from the heel to the toe.

Now with my running style I land more midfoot, so I wonder if I need a stability shoe as much since my foot doesn’t roll as severely as it would have striking with my heel first, but I like these shoes any way.

There seems to be more bounce in the midsole with the 17 than with the 16, a complaint I originally had with my first pair of Brooks.

Other nice changes:

  1. There is a bigger protective toe cap for the 17 than the 16, which just had an inch wide extension of the outsole. The 17 also has that inch wide extension, but there is now a harder protective piece of plastic that extends around the toe so the fabric won’t get scuffed.
  2. There seems to be an extra stabilizing strip along the outside of the upper (the black strip on the bottom shoe) compared to the 16.
  3. The 17 also has an extra reflecting strip on the toe instead of just at the heel.

My 16 are size 11, which is only 1/2 a size larger than my foot. I decided to go to an 11-1/2 this time because my toes were cramped in the smaller shoe (that’s what I get for listening to the salesman) and the tips of my toes rubbed against the inside of the toe box, which caused my toes to hurt. (I have a split nail on one toe that really hurts when I run in too short a length shoe.) The 17 are much roomier, but I can’t say that’s because the toe box is wider and more open or if it’s just a case of the extra 1/2 size of leeway inside.

First Impression: I like the Brooks GTS Adrenaline 17 much more than I did the 16. I just never felt comfortable running in the 16. They were too hard, too cramped, and I was just dissatisfied with them, which is why I tried to replace them with a pair of Saucony (fail), and alternated them with my Puma Mobius (which I’m going to use for trail running now that I have these two for treadmill/road running.

Disclaimer: I have never claimed to be a reviewer. I’m just a guy who runs and writes about the run. Additionally, I am not compensated for my reviews. Who the hell would pay me to write this shit?

Run. Switch shoes. Run again.

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In with the new

For runners, what is our most exciting day?

OK, besides pizza day.

Right! Buying more equipment!

Today I struck gold, so to speak. I bought two pairs of new running shoes.

I went in not sure what I wanted, not even sure I was going to buy one pair, much less two. In fact, I went in just sort of thinking everyday walking shoes. But as I walked down the rows of running shoes, picking some up that grabbed my attention, flexing them in my hands to see how much give they had, and oohing and ahhing over the colors, I came upon a pair that this particular shoe store had never had before.

They had Hoka One One. (Someone told me that’s pronounced ohnay ohnay.)

Now to be honest, I’ve read about Hoka One One and they were never on my radar. Seems runners either love them or hate them. Plus, I was thinking more along the lines of another minimalist style pair of running shoes similar to the Puma Mobium I have that I like. Certainly not the exact opposite: a pair of maximal shoes. C’mon! They’re like 1970s disco platform shoes. It would be like being on stilts, or I’d look like Herman Munster! Who wants that?

But, for shits and giggles, I thought I’d try on a pair. I put them on, tied them tight, then jogged up and down the aisles.

Oh my! (You have to say that like George Takei to get the right effect.) They felt wonderful. I admit, I’m a heavy lander and these made it feel like I was running on a cloud. So I picked up a pair.

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Hoka One One Clifton 3

Another pair of shoes that attracted my attention were a pair of Adidas Alphabounce Engineered Mesh running shoes. I liked the feel of the sole, it seemed soft and giving, almost like the Hoka’s, so I tried them on as well. I did like them and was about to buy them when I saw the newer Brooks GTS Adrenaline 17. I’ve had my 16s for almost a year now and because they served me well, I thought, “What the heck? I’ll try these on.”

Well, one thing led to another as they say and I ended up liking them more than the Adidas, so I ended up purchasing the Hokas and the Brooks.

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Brooks GTS Adrenaline 17

So I came home with two new pairs of running shoes.

Maybe I’ll review them later after I’ve actually run in them a few times.

Run. Buy new shoes. Run some more.

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Review Puma Mobium Elite V2

Ok, I know I promised a review of my Puma Mobium Elite V2 running shoes months ago. If you’ve actually been waiting for it, I apologize. But here it is. I hope the wait was worth it.

First, we’ll get the disclaimer out of the way. I have not been compensated for this review (but if you would like to send me a check, feel free). Nor am I affiliated with Puma or any running shoe company or store. I do admit, however, that I have always had a thing for Puma, although the last pair I actually used for running was in 1984.

There. That was relatively painless. 

I’ve had my pair of Puma Mobium Elite V2 running shoes for several months now. My first impressions of them were that they were lighter and more flexible than either my Brooks Adrenaline or my Saucony Grid Cohesion  (now retired to walking shoes), but they also had less cushioning.

Now, months later, I run almost exclusively in the Puma Mobiums. The pair I have aren’t for heel strikers, at least not extreme heel strikers, yet they’ve become more and more comfortable with each run. Maybe I adjusted my stride a little to become more of a midfoot striker, but that’s been an ongoing process and not something forced upon me by the shoe.

Also, considering I have flat feet and overpronate, I haven’t had any foot or joint pain despite the fact that these are more minimal than anything I’m used to. 

The soles have a rubber band (Mobium band) that Puma claims stretches as the foot flexes then releases all that kinetic energy when you push off. In effect, its supposed to be like snapping a rubberband. I don’t know if it does or not but I will admit that it felt like my step was springier on my outdoor runs, as if I was a little lighter.

The soles also have an arch in them where the Mobium band crosses in its figure 8 shape (see second picture below). I’m going to assume this absorbs some of the shock of your foot strike whereas other companies use thicker cushioning material to insulate your foot.

Additionally, Puma says the sole is designed like a cat’s paw. Sure. Ok. You can see the sole pictured below. I don’t know if they provide more grip as claimed, but they do seem very flexible.

The toe box is roomy, both width-wise and in front and my toes don’t feel crammed in there, nor do they rub against the front like they do with some shoes. Puma claims the shoe fabric conforms to your foot somehow. Adaptive running they call it. I don’t know if it does but I didn’t get that pinched feel across the top of my foot I get with other shoes.

To be honest, when I bought these my expectations were very low. All my other so-called running shoes from Puma were anything but made for running. They were more fashion than function. I was worried the Puma Mobiums would also turn out to be just another pair of good looking walkers. But I was pleasantly surprised to find these are an actual honest-to-goodness pair of running shoe and, despite the cool colors, aren’t just a fashion statement.

The Puma Mobium Elite V2 are now my go-to running shoes and I use them for the majority of my runs, preferring them to my Brooks Adrenaline, which had been my previous go-to shoes.

I’m happy Puma is finally concentrating on R&D in their running shoe development instead of relying on their marketing department.

If you’re looking for a comfortable, light weight trainer, then consider looking at a pair of these.

Run. Buy new shoes.Run some more.

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Would Spider-Man wear these?

Earlier this summer I was in the shoe store, Rogan’s by name, and I was looking at the different pairs of Puma they had.

One of them stuck out from the rest, which is no small feat considering Puma is known for its bright, eye catching  (some might say garish) colors.

This one:

It’s the Bioweb Elite and as you can see on the upper there’s a website structure covering the fabric. Puma calls it a web-cage.

OK, I admit it. I’m a sucker for garish. So I tried on a pair and they seemed fine for the few minutes I had them on at the store.

At home, I decided to try to run in them. Well, let me tell you (and even if you won’t let me, I’m going to tell you anyway) they sucked.

Since then, I’ve read several reviews and they mostly seemed, if not rave, at least overly positive reviews. Makes me wonder if Puma isn’t paying them.

We’ll start with the so-called Web Cage. It was tight. So tight, that after a short time wearing them, my instep started to hurt.And I hadn’t tied them any tighter than any other shoe.

Second, they have a very high profile. Not Hoka One One high, which I’ve never tried, but high enough that they made me feel like Boris Karloff as Frankenstein’s monster, tottering around on his big platform boots. I felt tall and I think that threw off my natural sense of balance because running in them made me feel unsteady, like I was going to step wrong and sprain an ankle.

Third, they seem rigid and stiff. Not much flex. And whatever the cushioning material of the midsole is, when combined with the hard plastic webbing surrounding it, the shoes felt like I had two bricks strapped to my feet.

One reviewer called them light weight, but they felt just as heavy as my Brooks Adrenaline GTS16.

And one final comment: they are noisy! What with the hard materials of the midsole and outsole making the shoe clomp like it’s a hard leather boot, plus all the creaking, groaning, and squeaking coming from the midsole plastic wrap, suffice to say no cat burglar is going to want these Pumas.

It should come as no surprise therefore that I did not enjoy that run and immediately relegated the Biowebs to walking status. I mean, they still are attention-grabbing.

Also, I hoped that several months of walking would “break them in.” No such luck. I still have instep pain so have to tie them looser than I like and a recent run in them hasn’t changed my opinion of them.

Get them for the looks if you must (they do have a wide range of colors), but if you’re looking for a decent pair of runners, look elsewhere. These ain’t them.

[FYI: Puma released the Bioweb Elite in 2013. The model I have is from that first generation, I believe. Puma remodeled the shoe as the Bioweb Speed with a lower profile. I don’t know if that model is an improvement.]

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New shoes new pain

The picture has nothing to do with the topic, it’s just my view at lunch while out walking on the Riverwalk in Milwaukee.

A couple weeks ago I went and picked up a new pair of running shoes: Saucony Grid Cohesion 9.

The main reason I picked them up was price. They were cheap and since my wife was getting a pair of shoes, and since the store has a Buy One Get One Half Off policy all the time, I figured why not?

In other words, it was a spur of the moment purchase not based on beforehand knowledge or research.

The Grid Cohesion 9 look nice and they have much more cushion than my current running shoes: Brooks Adrenaline GTS 16.

I figured it would be nice to switch off shoes every other run. Except so far I’ve run 5 or 6 times straight in the Saucony.

They do have more cushion and despite weighing the same as the Brooks, they feel lighter on my feet. Weird, hey?

The first few runs, the extra cushion seemed to provide more bounce. I didn’t feel like I was landing as hard on my feet.

Yesterday, however, I noticed a pain in my outer left thigh that ran from my hip down to the side of my knee. I don’t know when it first appeared (and really, at my age sometimes you just wake up with unexplained pains and strains. It doesn’t help that my 70 pound dalmatian sleeps on top of and between my legs.).

At first I suspected it was from not stretching my vastus lateralis the way I should (however that’s done. I need to look that up.).

So I figured ignoring it was the best course of action and I treadmilled just as planned. I set everything up for 3.5 miles (an increase of 0.4 miles from my usual 5k distance) at an alternating pace of 5.5 mph and 7.5 mph.

The pain in my hip continued and was intense enough to make my left leg feel weak, almost forcing a limp, on each footfall. I kept the pace up for the first mile and managed to do it in 10 minutes and change,  a new PB for the mile, but the pain forced me to slow down and I struggled through to finish the 3.5 miles in 40 minutes and change.

Disappointing.

I’ve been doing some stretching to alleviate the pain, but I have to wonder–is it the shoes?

The Saucony Grid Cohesion 9 is a neutral shoe, whereas the Brooks Adrenaline GTS 16 has more support for us over-pronators.

I’ll give my leg a little rest, do more stretches, and go back to using the Brooks and see if the pain goes away.

I will judge the Saucony Grid Cohesion 9 as a fail. Good for neutral runner’s who don’t need support, but not so good for me.

Now I need to do some research and see if I can’t find a shoe that provides adequate support for overpronation while still giving a nice cushioned ride.

I’ll report back if I find something.

If, in the meantime, you have a suggestion, feel free to make it (unless it’s Nike or Adidas. I don’t care those.)

At least the Saucony will make a nice pair of walking shoes.

Walk. Run. Wear good shoes.

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Happy trails to you

Today I made my first attempt at trail running. There is a park in Wauwatosa snuggled between Swan Boulevard, Innovation Discovery Parkway, and Watertown Plank Road. I’m not sure it has a name other than County Grounds Park.

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Look east across County Grounds Park

It covers an area of 55 acres and has a number of paths worn through it by walkers and runners. I’ve walked there a few times, but today I went with the intention of actually attempting to run.

I wore my battered old Brooks Beasts because I didn’t want to get my new Brooks Adrenaline GTS 16 dirty. Yeah, I know. I’m anal that way.

This was my second time off the treadmill. I ran a few weeks back on the sidewalks and roads around my house for about 2.75 miles for an average pace of 11:46 minutes per mile.

Today, I ran for 2 miles on the little trails that wound all over the park. Honestly? It kicked my ass. I was exhausted when I finished, dripping with sweat. My legs felt like noodles.

According to Runtastic, my average pace was 14:01 minutes per mile. Yes, I admit, that’s slow as heck. But as I said, the trails killed me. They weren’t flat as they wound around the park; they followed up and down the hills that dotted the field. My elevation gain was 85 feet and my elevation loss was 75 feet.

That’s a lot of up and downs. And as I said, I felt it. My legs were burning. I was gasping for breath. I stopped a few times to drink water and sometimes I had to walk up the steeper hills.

My average speed was only 4.3 mph, which is a fast walk, and just a tad slower than I manage on the treadmill when I do inclines. My maximum speed however, and I assume I hit this racing downhill, was 10.7 mph!

That’s faster than I’ve ever run on the treadmill.

And I enjoyed it. Truly. It was exhilarating running along the trails. I was forced to keep my focus on the ground ahead of me to avoid rocks, holes, and what appears to be a dry creek bed. Gave the run a whole new dimension that I don’t experience on the treadmill or on the sidewalk.

I look forward to my next visit. It’s a great addition to my running repertoire.

And afterward, as a reward, I had a fudge shake from Gilles Frozen Custard.

That’s why we run, right? For the food rewards?

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Saturday shopping for shoes

Stopped in at Verizon today. The contract for our Motorola Droid Turbo smartphones was up and we were eager to be rid of them. Not that they are bad phones. No, I’d still say they were one of the best I’ve owned recently.

The problem with the Droid Turbo was the camera. It sucked. It suffered from digital lag, something I thought had been fixed over a decade ago with the second or third generation of digital cameras, but Motorola must not have gotten the memo.

So we got rid of those and now I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and my wife chose the Samsung Galaxy S7. Don’t ask me about it yet, I haven’t put it through it’s paces, but that’s because we went to the store next to Verizon.

If you recall, and if you do, I’m really surprised, a few blog posts back I mentioned that Fleet Feet in Brookfield was having their Milwaukee Running Expo. So we stopped by to see what was going on.

To be honest, I didn’t really have a chance to talk to any vendors or stop by the booths because one of their nice reps stopped us to ask why we were there. I mentioned that I was interested in a new pair of running shoes and was interested in their store because they actually measured your feet for an exact fit.

If you recall, my current pair of running shoes are a size 13, two sizes too big. Don’t ask, I can’t explain.

So he got out the Brannock device and measured both feet while sitting and while standing. (I was the one sitting and standing, not he.) Then, he put me on the treadmill and while I jogged, he took video of my stride. He then explained what was going on. I land on my heel, then my foot rolls toward the inside of my foot. He showed me how my heel and ankle and what was going on. He also pointed out my right foot tends to flatten out more, showing I had a bad arch there.

Then he brought out several pairs of shoes and let me try them on. But not only did I try them on, I could go outside to run or walk or jog or whatever until I got a really good feel for the shoe.

I tried on a Mizuno Inspire, which felt pretty good. Much better than my current Asics Cumulus 16. Second, he let me try a pair of Saucony Omni. They felt even better than the Mizuno. I was almost sold on those until I tried the Brooks Adrenaline GTS 16.

Brooks GTS, Men

Brooks GTS, Men

Wow. They felt phenomenal. Then, he showed me these inserts that would help my arch keep from compressing. I know, I know. Didn’t the Sports Authority guy talk me into inserts that hurt my feet? Yes, he did. But this time, when the rep put them in the shoe and I was able to go back outside and run up and down the strip mall a few times, I was sold. They really did feel good. They hugged my foot and helped keep my arch from collapsing without any pain.

My wife also went through the process. She isn’t a runner. Not yet, but she does enjoy walking, so she came away with a pair of Saucony Guide.

Sure, we paid a little more for the shoe. If we wanted to, we could have saved a ton of money elsewhere, but we wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near the same personalized service. And personally, I think it would be like taking advantage of their service to then go elsewhere.

In fact, one lady came in and the staff was like. “Oh, you’re back.” I guess she’d been in earlier in the week or something. Then she said to my rep, “I found a pair of the shoes you showed me for a lot less at a competitor. Don’t tell anyone.” Well, what’s he going to say? Probably what I was thinking, “You’re a rude bitch.” She came in acting like they were all her friend but then she had turned around and taken her business elsewhere, like the services at Fleet Feet are free.

Sorry, bitch, but they get a salary for what they do and the business has to pay for the time and equipment they use to determine your exact fit. Coming back in to buy a pair of socks is hardly the way you pay them back for all their fabulous help.

I will certainly be returning to them. They’re service and commitment to providing me with the best shoes and accessories deserve to be rewarded with my continued patronage.

Maybe soon, I’ll use their services to register for a race.

Oh, and I ran tonight in the Brooks Adrenaline and they were fantastic. They were snug and felt like a dream.

Thanks, Fleet Feet!

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